Considering the amount of people posting on the blog about their problems with various companies, I thought it might be useful to add some simple advice for those who wish to complain. You may think these points are all obvious, but after many years of being a complainer, I’ve fallen foul of every one of them.
Please feel free to add your advice to this page, but please keep it relevant. Anything other than advice or additions will be deleted. Sorry, but I don’t want this page to go off at a tangent.
Reading this info may make it seem like a lot of work. It isn’t. Much of what you read below will take seconds, but will save you a lot of time and heartache later. Believe me, I know from painful, past experience!
Firstly, my advice for how you should prepare for any call:
Always have paperwork, bills, receipts, letters etc. to hand before you pick up the phone! How many times have you gotten through after being on hold for hours and been asked for an account number that’s on a (now invisible) letter somewhere in your pile of unfiled paperwork? ![]()
Stay calm at all times. This is really important. Shouting abuse at the person on the other end of the line, no matter how tempting, will get you nowhere! Not only will you cease to make any sense, but they hear it all day long and you instantly become just one more bitching customer. A calm and polite tone is probably a novelty and is more likely to be given a sympathetic ear by the drone at the other end.
If the drone you’re speaking to can’t or won’t help, then ask to speak to a supervisor, team leader or manager. The common response to this is “There is nobody available”. This is bull. There will always be someone in charge. If they’re in a meeting, get them out of it! Don’t take no for an answer.
Here’s my (probably incomplete) list of things to do when you get to the point where a telephone complaint is in order.
Who, what, when, where, why? – When you speak to a large company on the phone, you’ll probably get someone different each time. You should never rely on them making notes about your conversation, so if it’s a complex issue, be prepared to explain it in detail every time you ring! I think we’ve all had that nightmare experience. So, as soon as you get a human on the line, ask them for some or all of the following details:
- Name – first and last. “John” or “Susan” is just not enough! Some of these drones will be very reluctant to give a last name and may even refuse. I suspect this is because they don’t want you complaining about them by name rather than for any reasons relating to confidentiality! If they won’t give you a last name, demand to speak to someone else who will. Better still, ask a manager to explain why they refuse. Remember, when they cut you off because they can’t be bothered with your call any more (as they frequently do!), you can ask for them by name (or their manager).
- Department – Very important to know this, particularly when you’re talking to a company like BT who seem to have hundreds of them. Do you know everyone who works for your company by name?
- Region – Not the obvious question to ask perhaps. However, many organisations have spread themselves throughout the UK and have call centres in many different regions. So, speaking to “Joe Bloggs” is fairly meaningless unless you know where his bum is parked.
- Country – India being a favourite place for farming out our jobs means that you aren’t necessarily speaking to someone in the UK. A “foreign” sounding accent doesn’t mean they are not British! Check.
- Time/Date – Again, it may seem pointless now, but think about future calls. If you can quote the exact time and date back at them, then they cannot deny the call, nor who you spoke to. Not to mention that if needed, they can also listen to the recording of the call at a later date. Many/most call centres record calls these days, so you can help track a conversation when things go pear shaped by noting these details.
- Subject – It’s all very well having to refer to all the above info a few weeks or months down the line, but unless you have a super memory, it’s unlikely you’ll be able to recall exactly what you spoke about in detail. A few notes on this will help.
- Reference numbers – Depending on the nature of the call, you may be given a reference number of some description. Always make a note of this.
- Chief Exec – If you’re really upset and want to complain in writing, ask for the full contact details (full name, address etc.) of the Chief Executive or proprietor of the organisation. Do this last though. Tell the drone (once you have their name) that you will be writing, including their name, to the ultimate boss with a formal complaint and explain why. You’d be amazed how many times this tactic has made a huge difference! Also follow up on your threat. Write the letter and see what happens.
I really cannot stress enough how much pain I’ve saved myself over the years by following most or all of the points listed above. The difference in response from a company when complaining is astonishing if you can quote all this information. They know you are well organised and mean business if you can tell them all this. You are far less likely to be fobbed off when you can tell them that you’re writing to the Chief Exec to complain and intend use their name and details!! By making it personal, you are no longer just complaining about the company in general. You are now actually holding an individual employee responsible for doing the job they are being paid for. See the difference?
I really hope someone find this information useful. Above all else, keep smiling
In part 2, I’ll add some details of how to complain by other means, will give you some links to useful resources and an example of something very disturbing that happened to me recently which prompted this new blog page.
All the best,
Jim
Can I just say… I NEVER gave out my surname when I worked in a call centre and was told you don’t have to if you don’t feel comfortable doing so. My first name and extension number was enough and my team leader’s name if they so wanted. However, cos I was so brilliant, I never had any complaints escalated
Even if you log the exact time and date of the call, they can still deny receiving the call if they don’t have a record of it due to slack advisors. Just because you’ve made a note of a date and time and claim to have spoken to someone at that time, it doesn’t prove you actually did. Only companies with programs that can search for telephone numbers that have dialled into their switchboard will be able to pinpoint the call and therefore listen to the tape. I’m not saying don’t make a note of it as it will inevitably add weight to your case, just don’t believe it is the be all and end all of your complaint.
If you’re getting nowhere with the “drone” ask politely to speak to a manager. Do not be fobbed off that there is no one available as there must be SOMEONE in charge of that call centre. I’ve had loads of complaints resolved after asking (fair enough, I had to ask several times before my request sunk in) to speak to a manager who then agreed just to get rid of me.
If you start getting arsey, so will the advisor. Keep it polite, calm and if you feel you’re getting nowhere, stop discussing it and ask to speak to a manager and keep asking until you get who you want. They will inevitably come to the phone thinking they already know what you are after because their advisor has already told them that/ However, the advisor will have told things from their side of the phone (obviously) so you may need to start again and explain things from scratch. It’s their job to stop things escalating to the CEO and if they’re unwilling to help then you take their name, department etc etc and put the complaint in writing addressed to the CEO.
Do not just write to the complaints department as you’ll just get another minion replying. The CEO has an “elite” team of people replying for him who will just try to close the complaint ASAP and generally give you want you want to stop you taking it to an ombudsman. It normally costs the company money for the ombudsman to investigate a complaint so invariably they will just agree to stop it going further. Don’t forget to tell them exactly what you want them to do to resolve the complaint. It’s all well and good writing an excellent letter telling them everything that’s wrong but if you don’t tell them what you actually want, they might fall short again. Also-be realistic. Don’t ask for £1000 compensation when you know you’re not going to get it. It just makes your complaint laughable to be honest. Ask for recompense for any calls etc (provide copies of receipts and bills) and an apology for all the stress and anxiety caused by their continual failures.
Also, try and get the advisor on your side if you can, saying “I know it’s not your fault” and apologising for chewing their ear off does help the cause. As you can imagine, they probably hear people ranting all day, which I know is their job, but it still isn’t very nice for them. If you recognise that they actually have feelings too whilst telling them exactly why you’re unhappy and what you want them to do about it then you’ll get a bit further without having to resort to the manager route.
By: April on August 27, 2008
at 10:39 am
Hiya April,
Thanks for your post, there are a lot of good points in there. I especially like the info that their mission is to prevent you from going to an ombusdman or CEO! Very interesting.
The only thing I have to disagree with you about is the log of the call. Perhaps they can deny the call happened because someone couldn’t be bothered logging it or for whatever reason. However, don’t forget that customers can obtain itemised bills from BT, so could prove if necessary that a call to a specific company/number occured, at what time and the duration. The proof is there, no matter how much a company/call centre may deny it. Not to mention the fact that having all the other details, such as name, dep’t etc. also prove that you know that a certain member of staff was on duty at a specific time on a certain day. If you didn’t speak to them, how else could you know that?
All the best,
Jim
By: therantman on August 27, 2008
at 12:30 pm
That’s what I meant. You can log all the details you like but they could still imply that you are making it up if one of their advisors didn’t log the call. I’ve had it done to me by AOL.
Even if you get an itemised bill, all that does is prove you rang their number at that time. You could’ve been chatting to anyone about anything…. D’ya get what I’m waffling on about?
I know what I mean anyway…
I’ve got a call record feature on my mobile now which is quite handy. I can record stuff to stop me forgetting and if someone starts getting arsey with me, I’ll advise them that I’m about to start recording the call for future reference as I want to make sure I’m not going to forget anything. They “apparently” record all calls made into them, I’m going to record the call just in case they can’t find the recording afterwards. As long as you tell them you’re about to start recording (which is what the blurb is at the beginning of the phone call, keeping you on the phone longer whilst being charged, is for) then it’s not against data protection or whatever is it?!
By: April on August 29, 2008
at 10:30 am
Hi April,
Yep. I’m with you, and thinking about what you said, agree.
I guess even showing that you dialled their number, which resulted in an hour long call doesn’t prove who you spoke to or what you talked about. It must help though in some cases.
Hmmm, I’ve got some 3rd party software somewhere for my mobile which records calls if I choose to let it. It’s something I have played with, but never quite figured out what to use if for. Very handy in cases like this though. Warning them that you’re going to record them probably makes a huge difference. Nobody likes to be the brunt of a complaint, whether or not it’s justified and the prospect of having their conversation played back to senior management must be quite a motivator!
All the best,
Jim
By: therantman on September 1, 2008
at 12:01 am
I have an ongoing problem with the morons at scottish power .Despite giving them my new address several times they kept sending the bills to my old address in England.They even threatened the new owner with court action if he did not pay the bill (addressed to the occupier).I have spent a considerable amount of money and time over this problem .I even received an apology from them stating it was there mistake .Today 15th jan 2009 I have received a letter from therir collection agency stating thay are taking me to court for £5.81 for non payment of their mistake.I payed the bill on the 6th Jan 2009. What do you make of that then. As i say to them Do your best you bunch of idiots.
By: bloody annoyed on January 16, 2009
at 12:32 pm